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– Are you still clean? Yes. I have six months clean. OPRAH WINFREY: Six months clean. [APPLAUSE] Does that mean you
haven’t used at all since you left treatment? At all. Yeah. So when you sent her that
email and said, if I use drugs, it’s your fault,
what was going on? I was mad and angry. And I got my addict
behaviors back. And I was just, like,
blaming her for everything, blaming her for kicking me
out, blaming her for everything that’s ever happened to me. And I was just like,
if I use drugs, it’s going to be your
fault, trying to get to her and make her sad. But– OPRAH WINFREY: But? But I know that it was wrong. And, like, I– I don’t know. Our relationship has been
rocky, but it’s getting better. I heard you say, Penni, you
thought she’d go to rehab, she’d get fixed,
she’d come home, and you’d have this wonderful
life with your daughter. Is that what you expected? Yeah, I did. I thought you put
your car in the shop. It comes out repaired. And I thought that’s
what would with Chantel. Obviously, it’s
not what happens. Yeah. What is happening? I’m learning also
how to take care of me and what I’m doing wrong. Because you’ve
been a great enabler. Can you see that, how
you’ve enabled this? – Yes.
– Yeah. Debra Jay is an
addiction specialist who has worked with some
of the leading treatment centers in the country. She met with Chantel
and Penni last night. What did you want to say, Debra? Well, first of all, I
want to congratulate you. You made some tough choices,
and you stuck with it. And a lot of people
don’t do that. I’m so proud of you. I’m so proud of you. [APPLAUSE] But I think you know that
treatment isn’t recovery, don’t you? Treatment is discovery. And sometimes,
when you get home, you hit a little speed bump. It’s not what you
expected, right? What kinds of things do you
think you need to do to make sure you have a solid program? Need to go to more meetings
and find a good sponsor to help me and just try not
to do it on my own like I’ve been trying to. Kind of underestimating
the addiction. CHANTEL DEAN: Yeah. DEBRA JAY: Yeah. OPRAH WINFREY: Are you
concerned about relapsing? Yeah.
Every day. Every day. Do you still crave the drug? A lot. I do a lot, especially being
home and running into a lot of people and everything. And are you concerned
that your daughter is going to relapse? Every day, I’m
concerned about it. We take it day by day. Day by day. Which is what you have
to do, right, Debra? You have to take
it day by day. And I think what I was seeing on
the tape is that the two of you are focusing on each other. You want mom to do things
to make your life right. Mom wants you to do things
to make her life right. What I’d like you to do
is focus on yourself. Make yourself right and
take it one day at a time. So, Penni, when you’re
looking at Chantel, you want to think about
what is she doing today, and not just what
she’s doing wrong, but talk to her about
what she’s doing right. And for you, one
question every day. Am I being trustworthy today? You see how different that is? Then, will you trust me, Mom? And I being trustworthy?
– Yeah. Yeah. You know, because that’s
what we have control over, what we’re doing today. And what it means
to be trustworthy is to work a program
of recovery every day.

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